UPDATE: Bus Driver Remains in Critical Condition, Another Victim Upgraded to Serious Condition
Two people were airlifted to Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital following accident involving a bus and a tractor trailer
Updated at 9:00 p.m.
The New Jersey State Police said the bus driver who had been reported dead in this afternoon's accident on the New Jersey Turnpike has been revived at Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital. The driver, identified as Andy Lynch, 52, of Chesapeake, Va., remains in critical condition according to the NJSP.
Two other people were seriously injured in the accident, which involved a collision between bus and a tractor-trailer on the N.J. Turnpike near Exit 8A in South Brunswick shortly before noon.
Hospital spokesman Peter Haigney said a total of seven victims from the accident were treated at Robert Wood Johnson. The bus driver remains in critical condition as of 5 p.m., while another patient has been upgraded from critical condition to serious condition.
Five other patients were brought in fair condition, three of whom have been treated and released, Haigney said.
According to the New Jersey State Police, the accident occurred at 11:54 a.m. with a bus and one tractor-trailer, with a second tractor-trailer possibly becoming involved immediately following the impact.
South Brunswick Police spokesman Sgt. Jim Ryan said South Brunswick EMS was en route to the scene at 12:30 p.m.
Two victims were reportedly extricated from the bus. The state police reported 14 minor injuries, with the two most serious being transported to Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital in New Brunswick by Medevac helicopter. There were around 30 to 40 people on the bus, according to the NJSP.
The accident occurred on the N.J. Turnpike's southbound outer roadway, just north of Exit 8A/Rt. 32 in South Brunswick. All lanes are closed to traffic.
The southbound lanes of the Turnpike have been shut down, with traffic slowly being allowed to pass on the shoulder of the roadway. Significant delays are expected for the time being, according to the state police.
As of 5 p.m., the New Jersey Turnpike Authority is reporting a three-mile, 10 minute delay.
This story will be updated as information becomes available.
Ashley Peskoe contributed to this report.
Mary Davis
5:57 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Whats up with these buses seems we hear about this happening more often this past year. Do we need better training and driver liscense checked more closely. Something needs to give......
Ken
6:33 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Maybe the bus driver driving too long without enough rest??
Diana Lynn Constantino Vaiano
7:01 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
not better training, maybe more rest!
Christopher Drescher
7:32 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
What is needded is more inforcement, of budget carriers. Of the 10 crashes since March, 7 have been by low fare operations and 2 by Canadians. I personally have heard both federal and state DOT officals say they don't inspect these compines as they should. One went as far as to say, "We know enough to shut Fung Wah down, but that would be too upsetting to the Chiniatown community."
tinkerbell
7:32 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I sure hope it wasn't a case of cell phone use or texting while driving. It was in the early afternoon and they were headed to DC from New York so I don't think it was a case of too many hours worked I think it was just a case of Not paying attention to the road and drivbing TOO FAST.
Michele Black Leeds
11:58 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Because there are citizen patrol type groups out on the prowl against the TRUCK DRIVER. They're trying to add unnecessary restrictions on them when TRUCK DRIVERS are the safest drivers on the road - when you look at INTERSTATE (OTR drivers) vs INTRASTATE (local drivers) most accidents caused by the truck driver are the local drivers whereas interstate accidents involving a 4-wheeler and an 18-wheeler, it's typically the 4-wheeler's fault.
Buses have been overlooked for far too long while ridiculous restrictions have been placed on the wrong drivers. I want to see more restrictions on 4-wheelers if more restrictions have to be imposed at all.
Suzy
1:29 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
All I've been hearing about buses lately, is fires and horrible accidents. Being the 1st day of school, there was a school bus somewhere that went up in flames. Luckily the bus driver and two middle age boys ran to the back to get others' out.
I live in Boston, which has horrendously horrible drivers. I should say live outside of Boston -20 minutes north of Boston. I cringe everytime I have to drive into the city. Between the big dig (which btw, was a f'ing joke), and the angry drivers, it's enough to give me a panic attack behind the wheel, somewhere on a freeway!
Barry Emery
6:07 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
I have just concluded a 14 yr. career driving charter bus. the truth of the matter is that nobody wants to hear what is happening. I submitted mails to 60 minutes and one of my local tv stations over accidents that have happened,starting with the accident in Atlanta a few years back. Recently,I submitted information to the Pennsylvania PUC since I was informed that is who we report to, and I never received any call-back or satisfaction of any kind. Therefore,I have come to the conclusion that nobody really cares.
Maria Pereira
5:58 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
It says the EMS was in route to the scene at 12:30, so 36 minutes later.
Joe Blow
6:33 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
EMS was on scene by 1203
John
6:00 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I drive the turnpike every day from Exit 1 to 14 and let me tell you the bus drivers lately are the worse I have ever seen. The drive in the left in areas where it is clearly marked no buses or tailer and swerve in and out to get in front of traffic. They need to be goverened. A bus full of passengers should not be able to blow past my car if I am going 65-70.
Diana Lynn Constantino Vaiano
7:13 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
OH yes I agree, that driver's company needs to be called to get him off the road, makes it look bad, for Professional drivers! they shoukd not be driving at all! I would of called 911 at that point, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING!
Felicia Luburich
6:04 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
The last time I was on a bus to NYC from NJ the WW did not work and the brakes were bad. If I'm driving my vehicle on the GSP or TP & I do 65 to pass a really slow mover EVERYONE else is passing me. There is usually more than one reason for an accident. HEAVY traffic is also a factor.
jesse
7:21 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
The Bus Driver go by the same Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulation as do the truck drivers.I know because I did both. I've been driving for over 29 years and 17 years as and independent driver.Just because the truck is JB Hunt you are blaming JB Hunt. NO I'm not a .JB Hunt operator. No one knows what happen they are always blaming the truck drivers. There are plenty very good well experienced drivers out there on the road. Our biggest problem out here today is these big companies that do there own training,are not properly training these young and old drivers. WE have drivers here with two and three months(lack of experience ) training new drivers. The government is about to tear us a new ------hole because of whats going on out here on the road. WE need to stick together instead of blaming the name on side of the truck. WE need stronger laws on training new drivers.Let the old timers do what they do best. That is driver safely and correctly. Once again I'm not aJB Hunt driver I've pulled just about every trailer out there.
GhettoMedic
6:10 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Umm, I dont see anywhere in the article that the driver died at the scene,and I dont think the police would be giving a briefing for at least three hours after the accident so they could figure out what happened and notified family. Chances are the driver went into cardiac arrest at the hospital and was revived. Ladder trucks are extremely important at these scenes. The members on these truck are usually the ones's that are trained in extrication and they can assist EMS with triage plus that big truck parked across a highway certainly will stop traffic from being over aggressive and hurting one of the first responders and finally if you want medics in less then 6 minutes you better move the New York City.
Jeff
7:00 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
LOVE your handle!!
Diana Lynn Constantino Vaiano
7:19 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I heard the driver died in the hospital, don't know what time! but had a lot of broken bones, was hard to get him out of the bus due to the metal on the bus, and lots of bleeding! so sad! but he saved lots of lives! he was a hero!
James McInnis
4:40 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
Umm?
Warren Garrison
6:10 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
why the hell don't you log someone in before they spend their valuable time posting something, only to have it disappear while you log us in????????????????????
Jerome
6:10 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Father, we pray in jesus name for healing and a full recovery for each person involve in this accident. May the peace of God be with everyone involved in the accident and their love ones in Jesus Name.
DIANE PEREIRA
7:23 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
This is the best comment out of them all.
Stop trying to guess who did what first and who is to blam.. How many hours the bus driver has driven or the rig driver.
Main thing, Thank GOD, everone is ALIVE...
Pedro B Ochoa
9:36 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Amen and amen ...
Chuck Corcoran
10:57 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Amen !!!!
Warren Garrison
6:10 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
say there that you must be logged in first RATHER than just putting up there "Leave A Comment" and us thinking that's all we have to do.
JULIE
6:13 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
DEAR GOD PLEASE DON'T LET THIS BE ANYONE I KNOW OR MY FAMILY! IF IT IS TO BE, SO BE IT. PLEASE WATCH OVER THEM AND BLESS THEM.
lora
6:15 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
amen
Janet
6:17 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
How does someone die at 11:54am and get revived FOUR HOURS later? Also, I'm with Lydia, if the accident occurred at 11:54am and the EMT's were just "en route to the scene" at 12:30pm, I too am staying far away from New Jersey!... Could that be a direct result of the Christie Administration policies toward fire fighters and public employees? This could be one example of what happens when a budget is balanced on the backs of the middle class instead of requiring fair and equal taxation of the wealthy.
Joe Blow
6:33 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
because the news and there times aren't always accurate.. Also take time to get reports and updates because the people are doing there jobs..
stu cash
4:33 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
aint God good!
vanessa underwood
6:31 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
you know what everyone should be doing is praying that these people recover from this instead of trying to figure out who's fault, and who die for 4 hrs ,Rember some of these could have been childrens as well even if it didnt say so,and it is someone love one's so god help all who is hurting thur this,and help them to have peace,Amen.
DIANE PEREIRA
7:25 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
AGREED!!!!
Lydia Manzanares
9:35 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I agree and at list we took care of 4 that came to hospital thank god that are fine and want home and for the driver we all need to pray for him and family he is in gods hand and hope every one that got hurt have speedy recovery.
New Yorker
6:31 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I used to be a bus escort for a major bus/tour company. I did a lot of runs to NYC. Let me tell you there are some bus drivers behind the wheel that shouldn't be there. My last day was when a driver came back in the evening to pick the tour up and he was tweaking and we were 250 miles from home. I didn't realize he was tweaking until we got on the NJ TPK. The next day I quit my job, I couldn't be responsible for a bus load of people if the driver was on something. My superior later did a ghost ride with the driver, at which time he drove into a McDonalds. Enough said!
Janee Alecia
6:40 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
TAILGATING.IS.BAD.
Jackie M. Harrod
6:44 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
AMEN, Jerome........I'm with you!!!!!
Eaglesnest
6:47 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Janet, I don't see how Governor Christy's policies had anything to do with this accident. You truly picked an inappropriate time to make this a political arena. The accident had nothing to do with politics. Yet, it would take a zombie from the far left to attempt to make it one. Also, this nations wealthy make up 2% of taxes paid by them, if you taxed those 2% of everything they have you will still not solve the nations financial woes. How about looking at the BIG PICTURE HERE? How about requesting of the clueless One in the White House to ease up on some of the unnecessary regulations his bunch of "Left Wing" goons have imposed on the American people. Maybe, that is where you should start throwing blame at. GET EDUCATED, THAN COME BACK AND SPEW.
cynthia ramirez
6:48 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I heard here on LI if you need a fire engine or an ambulance called to any scene the people in the accident are now sent a bill. And i know for sure if you hit a utility pole LIPA sends you a bill for $100 at least that what it was 10 yrs ago.
Teresita
6:48 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Hello everyone, it is sad but I believe any accident is something that we all as Christians should just offer a little prayer for all involved in it even if we do not know them, just as we would like others to do for us if it were us or our loved ones, it matters not who's fault it is, just that they will be ok and live! Teresita
Jeff
6:54 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Looks like the Patch Delete Queen needs to get on the ball with the thread, especially with Anna Russo Fabricatore. No doubt she's missing a few marbles?!
Sharon Staines Davis
7:00 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
yep people always think they know the laws and they dont as always its always the truckers fault looks like to me its the buses fault jb cant speed they can only do 65 thats it bus couldnt stop!!!
Susan Hall
6:55 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
You are right about the hours Todd. It is 11 hrs of driving and 14 total on duty. This was a day cab. I am sure he just works 10 hrs a day. As for the driver being revived hours later. It says the driver was reported killed but revived at the hospital. Says nothing about what time he was revived. It does say that this report was at 5.
Christopher Drescher
7:38 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Sorry 11 hrs. driving 14 on duty, is current rules for truck drivers. Bus drivers are 10hours driving 15 hours on duty between 8 hours of rest.
Blanche Jones
6:55 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I pray that everyone will heal and be alright. I would like to know how by the pictures that you know its the rigs fault? How do you know that the bus was not trying to come back one to the road? Or a car in the left lane cut in front of the truck as you can see from the pictures the damage is more than half way down a 53 foot trailer. There is heavy skid marks from the rig . Please don't put the blame on anyone unless YOU know for sure. JB Hunt is not a great company but neither are alot of companies now days (SWIFT sure wish I finished training God one driver couldnt even back up in the port!! ) Lets all wait and see what the police say to blame anyone. Oh by the way I do drive trucks NY to Florida every week on I-95
Ginger Naylor
7:00 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
It had to be tailgating. I was in Elizabeth this past weekend for a funeral, and getting home we jumped on the NJ Tpke hoping to make it home quicker. No - there was roadwork saturday just after woodbridge, just around the area where the 2 two lane truck lane and the 3 lane car lanes merged. Complete standstill. No shoulder. And staties were trying to get through AFTER we sat and crawled 3 miles. And everyone was right on the car in front's butt. There's a rule in NJ - I know because I learned to drive there before I moved here to PA. And that rule is keep one car space between you and the car in front for every 10MPH you're driving. So if you're driving 30 MPH, you should have 3 car lengths in front of you. No one does that anymore except the people who stick to the left lane. But the people who stick to the left lane, INCLUDING trucks and buses, don't always use the courtesy rule for merging -- and thats to look and see whats coming on, and time yourself to allow the merge or move to the passing lane until its clear. These two things have caused accidents everywhere!! And its not JUST NJ, its PA too - more so in PA though. The entry's onto the major roads are not long enough... ok - maybe the Market St exit in York PA is -- but thats about all I saw. So its not just cell phones, its people's ignorance and short tempers.
Chuck Corcoran
11:04 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
The definition of Tailgating > A vehicle driving closer than 7 seconds from the vehicle in front of him/her. When a tractor trailer or a bus counts this ..it becomes a rather large space in which cars love to fill.
tammy
7:02 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
To Anna-- From the way the picture looks that bus rear-ended the truck, unless NJ has different laws, most states say if you rear-end some one you are automatically at fault. The bus driver should have had better control over his bus not to hit that truck. Seems to me it will be the bus company and driver who will be facing lawsuits not jb hunt.
DIANE PEREIRA
7:43 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Not true, I was rear ended on the freeway, I WAS FAULTED by the CHP.. It went on my record but was not cited...
Later at the trial found out the man who hit me had a stroke at the wheel.. I was still found wrong and he came into my lane. But the part that really got me was when I found out, He was as friend of the whole CHP and sold them all cars.
the Lady CHP said the truck was in the wrong and then said that she had to turn this case over to this other CHP man... he never looked at the car, talked to me, but did go up and shake hands with the truck driver.
then came back to me, said my story didn't match the truck drivers version and said I lied and I was at fault.
I ended up taking the higher road, sent flowers to the driver and hoped he would be up and around very soon, his wife contacted me by mail thanked me for the flowers and said he had just passed away. We kept in touch for 3 years until she moved away...I hope she will write me some day...
I'm just saying not everything is law. In my case anyway, it wasn't
Oh yeah, My ins went up also. I know the driver is in a much better place. RIP: W.J.
Diane
Rescue
7:07 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Before any one post comments please get facts straight, 1st accident happened around 11:54 time reported to NJSP, Monroe EMS dispatched at 12:02 the first EmS unit on scene at 1208. Fire used a ladder truck because it has all heavy rescue equipment so is no need to have a separate rescue truck. First victim extricated at 1230 due to intensive damage to bus for those that have an understanding of extraction wasn't slow at all, various expects during a rescue need to stabilize patient and need to pay attention in what is being cut around. In this incident was other victim behind it so very complex rescue. Victim was revived on scene and them medevac. 2nd victim was shortly extrecated also transported in critical condition. Multiple agencies were requested by Monroe EMS, but due to heavy traffic those responding ambulances had to fight traffic along the emergency lane. So in summary don't post just to post get facts straight.
DIANE PEREIRA
7:48 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Thanks for all the information. Great to know all this. I can't stand it when everyone blames everyone and they don't know.
Phil Davis
7:07 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Definitely a bad mix of vehicles in traffic;the investigation will reveal who or what was at fault as photos can be deceiving. I drive a tractor trailer in Phoenix for the Postal Service and see both reckless truckers and buses daily. The JB Hunt tractor in the accident photo is a "local deliver" type and not an extended "sleeper" cab. It would lead me to believe that he wasn't on a long haul,just a short haul local delivery. Ms. Fabricatore should have noticed that!!
Lee
7:14 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I worked for JB Hunt. My dispacther did not care about my safe, he made me drive in un-safe conditions. I had to have common sense an stop driving.
Susan
7:15 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
So very touching to me,being a truck drivers mom,I rode with my son 2 mos.I could not deal with the way drivers think a "Rig" could stop on a dime.Hats off & prayers to ALL the truckers male & females. Sorry folk but seems to me,the Bus was following too close.
Bubba Chuck
8:01 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
gps is what they live by if ur a driver....rigs cant go over 65....rack it!!
Starr Slavedrivermom Lockhart
7:33 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
When my baby boy was having a seizure, they responded in a huge firetruck. I didn't fuss at them about wasting tax payers money. I was happy to see them.
littlebit
8:03 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
For the person who said it was two, and that the JB ran into another truck who had slowed for a break down or stalled car. LOOK AT THE PICTURES!!!!! If a truck runs into the back end of another truck that JB truck would have a front end that was messed up. well from the pictures the JB truck looks intacked. as a driver for over 14 years I have to agree with the other drivers on this posting. If you don't like our trucks on the highway, then grow your own food and raise your own chickens,beef,pork,and make your own cheese. then make your own clothes and shoes, Oh and go back to horse and buggys cuz the gas you put into your cars well that too is comes by truck to your nears gas stations. I can go on here and add much more. If not for trucks and the drivers who drive them your stores you love to shop in would be empty. Just saying
tinkerbell
11:10 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
from looking at the photo of the jackknifed truck(in this article) I can see some damage to the front end on the drivers side. If you look you will notice it too it's not a lot but it is there. Maybe the truck driver just barely hit the truck in front of him and if so there wouldn't be a lot of damage. The article I googled was from the news in new Jersey and it showed a better photo of the front of the truck. OOH and just so you know my whole family all drives or drove trucks so I do know what I'm talking about.
Ben
8:06 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Often traffic comes to a hault at exit 8A if you are going to hit traffic it will be at exit 8A and so it is hard to have an accident if you are not moving
ED SELF
8:14 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
40 YEAR TRUCK DRIVER (EAST COAST), RETIRED. WITH THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE IN THESE VEHICLES TODAY AND ON THE JERSEY PIKE THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT HAPPEND. OH, BY THE WAY THERE NOT A SHORTAGE OF GOOD TRUCK DRIVERS THEY WON'T WORK FOR THESE NON UNION (SCAB) COMPANY'S WANT TO PAY.
Lady Bus Driver
8:18 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
it is very frustrating to hear all of you playing the blame game. I have been driving a motorcoach for 15 years. I am a very good driver and knock on wood never have I been in a accident where I was at fault. I have been on the turnpike many many times. It is crazy to hear all of you playing the blame game but none of you take blame one yourselves. You all talk about how the bus drivers drive how the truckers drive. What about how YOU drive your cars. How you cut these large vehicles off . How You put peoples lives in danger just because you cant ride behind the bus or truck, oh but of course your perfect thats rite. It doesent matter who was at fault it was a accident they happen every day. It wasent on purpose thats why its called a accident. And I will have you know that bus driver is a retired NY police officer, he has been driveing a bus for about 10 years and has a spotless driving record. You all should be ashamed at the way you jump to conclusions. That man is fighting for his life. Im not saying all bus drivers are perfect. I get upset with some of them my self. But people in there cars need to have more respect for the larger vehicles on the road.
gisele morrison
11:00 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011
THANKYOU, My family knew Andy well, what a GREAT person he was. And one of the SAFEST drivers I have every seen. NO WAY would he have put anyone in harms way.It was a horrible ACCIDENT.
Rose Mazzurco
2:24 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011
Well said, The Driver of the Bus is now with the lord. Lets pray for his family. I drive bus Myself and Car's love to cut us off, They have to be front of the buses . How many car wrecks do we see in one day? Do we know what really happen yet????? Stop blaming before you no the whole story........
Steve B Huddleston
8:19 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Im a Fire Fighter and a Bus driver. The response with the ladder is business as usual. That truck carrys much more than a ladder in the way of tools and equipment to conduct extrications and incident mitigation. I drive entertainer coaches for rock stars and the like. With 2.5 million safe miles behind me I can tell you a large pecentage of the bus drivers in the NY, NJ area stink. They would'nt last a day In my seat. Aggresive un-skilled knuckle heads. The bus driver for whatever reason was at fault for at least not paying attention far enough ahead and going too fast for conditons. The truck drivers are at least as bad if not worse. Constantly tailgating driving like my kid on a go-cart. Pass all the laws you want. It wont do any good. In fact it will probably hurt in the fact that drivers with my kind of experience will just walk away. Tired of jumping through hoops. Cops out writing tickets for the conduct they see is the only way to identify the trouble makers and hold them and they'er companys accountable. And please dont confuse the entertainer buses, the fancy ones with the cool paint jobs, with the dummys hauling people like cattle to casinos and communters to work. The people in those buses deserve a safe smooth ride like anyone else. Too bad they have never felt what that is like.
Chuck Corcoran
10:12 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
If I am trapped in an accident, I could careless what the rescue team drives up in. Moped or Ladder truck. They are EMT's also
Steve in Kingston
8:44 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
A ladder to a vehicle extrication?...."business as usual"? What company do you ride with?
Bob
11:10 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
What Company do YOU ride with. The one I ride with seldom sends a ladder on the interstate but my buddy's company on the west coast in a much larger city still does - has their jaws on the ladder. Are you an active firefighter?
melinda schnitker
9:23 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
If the driver did "die' but "came back" I wonder what he saw..I lost my son in a trajic car accident recently and read all I can about near death experinces..just my take on this.
KAMAL PHILLIPS
9:29 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
FIRST AND FOREMOST,LET ME SAY THAT MY UNCLE,THE BUS DRIVER IS AN EXCELLENT,WELL-TRAINED, BUS DRIVER WHO ALWAYS EXHIBITS THE UT-MOST SAFETY WHEN OPERATING ANY VEHICLE.INCLUDING HIS PRIVATE VEHICLE! HE POSSESSES OVER 500,000+ DRIVING MILES OF BEHIND THE WHEEL EXPERIENCE COMMERCIALLY! IF YOU SPECULATORS WOULD READ THE ARTICLE MORE CAREFULLY,YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS NOT BUS DRIVER ERROR. THE ACCIDENT STEMMED FROM THE TWO TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT COLLIDED AHEAD OF THIS CRASH! AND WITH ANY KNOWLEDGE OF MECHANICS,VEHICLE WEIGHT,VELOCITY OF MOVING OBJECTS,ETC. YOU WOULD KNOW THAT ATTEMPTING TO PERFORM AN EMERGENCY STOP WITH VEHICLES OF THESE SIZES IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT! SO BEFORE ANY OF YOU "BLINDLY" MAKE ASSUMPTIONS,AS TO HOW YOU "BELIEVE" THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED,AND/OR PREMATURELY POINT THE EVER SO POPULAR FINGER OF BLAME, ACQUIRE THE FACTS! READING SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS JUST NOW ALMOST MADE ME THROW UP. JUST KNOWING THAT THIS IS THE VERY REASON WHY INDIVIDUALS LOOK LIKE IDIOTS,IN FRONT OF NEWS CAMERAS,WHEN THEY OFFER WHAT THEY "THINK" HAPPENED!I WOULD APPRECIATE PRAYERS AT THIS POINT INSTEAD OF "CRIME SOLVING"! BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY,THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES...NOT JUST MINE!
Chuck Corcoran
10:33 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I hope your Uncle pulls thru. According to the New Jersey State Police, the accident occurred at 11:54 a.m. with a bus and one tractor-trailer, with a second tractor-trailer possibly becoming involved immediately following the impact. Sounds like the Bus and Tractor Trailer collided first then another Tractor trailer may have been involved afterward. Get your facts straight before you go on a tangent again
Sarah Crow Koontz
12:20 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
I agree with everything you say about people pointing the finger without facts, but when you say read the article, it does say, "According to the New Jersey State Police, the accident occurred at 11:54 a.m. with a bus and one tractor-trailer, with a second tractor-trailer possibly becoming involved immediately following the impact." It does not, however, say who was at fault and 9/10 commenters are blaming the busdriver based on nothing but anger at buses in general, I guess. Also, it's hard to tell anything from the pictures (I'd say the bus was to right of truck and truck came over without seeing it, but that's as baseless as the other views since this is all just where they ended up and I'm not an accident investigator- I also can't find the 2'nd truck mentioned in article but it must be there somewhere.) I hope your uncle and the injured passengers make it and fully recover, hun, regardless of who was at fault.
DIANE PEREIRA
9:36 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I'm so sorry to hear about your Uncle.. I am praying for him and all others in the Accident. I also get very frustrated when others think they can solve the question of
what happened and who is to blame. I appologize for them...
Wish your uncle well for me.
Steve in Kingston
9:41 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Most people including me and ALL truck and bus drivers...drive way over the speed limit 80mph plus....those that drive trucks and buses have more responsibility due to the size of their vehicles....
Chuck Corcoran
10:36 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Not all truck drives can speed on the NJTP. Alot of trucks are governed at 65mph or less.
Lady Bus Driver
10:37 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
no not ALL !!! why dont you try driving near a large vehicle one day just drive and obsderve. Instead of looking at the truck or bus look at the other vehicles on the road and see how they are driving including yourself. Yes bus drivers have alot of resposibility and they are also governed between 65 - 72 mph
sabab xayarath
9:50 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
bus and trucks going too fast when driving on hwy they alway pass me. drivers behavior is the most important it doesn't matter how much training they had.
Monique Cunningham
9:55 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I'm not taking sides for neither the truck nor the bus driver. I will say that big rigs can and do move faster than lots of buses. I work for a co. driving busses and our engines are governed to top out at 70 some only 65mph. I've had vheicles from semi's, motorcycles, sedans, suv's ect cut in front of me and slam on breaks putting me in the position to think fast and act faster. People dont realize that big vheicles cannot stop on the drop of a dime and often underestimate the distance they do have to stop. Nobody knows who is at fault in this situation because you most likely where not there to see it happen. The bus may have survailance cameras that will better assist who was at fault. I pray nothing like this happens to me because I drive in the worst effin state ever!!! Florida lol. I pray for those affected by this tragic accident and the families who had to witness it.
rick b
9:56 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
everybodys knows that little sticker on the back of a bus,{ yeild to bus} well it went to the heads of 95% of bus drivers,try getting on the pike at 16 e at 5-6 pm they run the exit to the rest stop then put the blinker on and just cut right in befor the rest-stop,they dont care about the cars or trucks in the right lane,
Chuck Corcoran
10:39 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I have never seen such a sticker on any bus
KAMAL PHILLIPS
10:25 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Pure ignorance...and i'll prove it! Like this...." WERE YOU THERE!?" HELL NO! and the definition of IGNORANCE...? ANYONE?... {LACK OF KNOWLEDGE} YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED...so shut da hell up!
Chuck Corcoran
10:41 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Neither were you so Ditto!
Sam Rodgers
10:50 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011
I am rooting for you Mr. Robert Johnson. Hang in there. What a miracle. I really hope he is okay....
wrkn2mch
12:42 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
I drove semi's for thirty years up and down the jersey turnpike and always tried to leave space in between vehicles and be courteous but it's impossible because the cars think that space is for them to fill up and then when they want to get off an exit they just slam their brakes on when in the center lane to get off.......most OTR drivers bus and truck are great drivers.....ever since the local drivers stopped getting paid by the hour they think their Mario Andretti........Every car driver should be put behind the wheel of a 80,000lb rig and made to panic stop it and they will have a whole new respect for them......I wasn't there and didn't see the accident but i can say with most certainty a car made a stupid move in front of a big rig.... caused the accident and kept going...... The big rigs should leave a space in between.....impossible!
I feel so bad for that bus driver...
wrkn2mch
12:54 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
I just looked at the pictures supplied and you can see in the last picture that the JB Truck was in the center lane and had to panic stop for some reason and it looks like his trailer was empty and drifted over to the right lane where the bus was and you can see the skid marks of the bus in the right lane going to the shoulder trying to get by that drifting trailer and almost made it....... that bus driver saved a lot of lives
cookie
1:13 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THE TRUTH. Maybe the bus company has something to hide or the truck driver. There will be some kind of a cover up I am sure, there always is. There have been to many serious accidents lately, and involving buses. Here in Colorado Springs there was a SCHOOL BUS DRIVER who rear ended and truck, kids on board, What is wrong here? Not enough training? Bad servicing? No one cares enough to thoroughly check? Here in CS, there are serious accidents everyday many involving roll overs and pin ins. Speed is a big factor but riding peoples rear bumpers is the main cause, WE have very high speed limits here and of course it is NEVER FAST ENOUGH, so what happens, ACCIDENTS all over the place. WHy can't people drive with their brains and not their feet?
Michael
2:02 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
My thoughts after many years driving a truck and being a tow truck driver and being called to many wrecks.
1) Truck driver was in the fast lane.
2) Bus driver in the slow lane.
3) Truck was passing the bus, was driving into the sun.
4) As the truck pas the bus, traffic ahead reduce speed ( look at the last pic red road sign on the bridge. With sun in his eyes maybe a somewhat dirty windshield. He over put the truck into a hard jack knife. As the truck adn trailer jack knife. The trailer caught the bus in the slow lane as the truck drag along side of the bus. The trailer hook onto the main support frame of the bus driver support and hung up on the bus dragging it with the trailer. Looking also at the impact and the way trailer is tipping toward the bus its clear that the trailer had more forward speed and is resting up on the bus.
Ron
4:19 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
As a truck driver for the last 34 years let me say that the pictures do not show enough information for anyone looking at them to make a correct decission. Let me point out that no picture shows a clear view of the front of the JB Hunt tractor or the right side of said tractor. While Michael's statement is plausable, let me make another view. The JB Hunt truck may have well been stopped with some distance between his truck and the flatbed trailer in front of him. The bus driver could have changed lanes to get behind the JB Hunt truck or not been paying enough attention and swirved to try to miss the truck. In either case the bus contacted the trailer to the right of center at a higher rate of speed and pushed the rear of the trailer to the right causing the front of the trailer to move to the left and causing the tractor to jack-knife to the right. Damage was done to the right front corner of the JB Hunt trailer. Think about it ... if the JB Hunt tractor had hit the truck in front of it then the JB Hunt trailer would not have had such damage, the trailer was pushed into the flatbed AFTER the JB Hunt had jack-knifed. The bus then slid off the back of the trailer and continued moving forward causing the back of the trailer to damage the side of the bus.
Wolfman
6:15 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
cell phones are a scurge on our soceity as they take over peoples lives and cause a lot of this to happen
Dushaun King
9:47 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
The driver is my cousin and he is a wonderful man and very professional and tried to save the people life that was on the bus and I praise him for that so people please pray for his recovery,THANK YOU
wrkn2mch
1:21 am on Sunday, August 28, 2011
Your Cousin is a Hero..... Read my post about seven up and another a few down. I drove semi's for thirty years and the skid marks going onto the grass as the trailer drifted in front of him was a desperate attempt to save live. I sure hope he makes a full recovery and has a happy life.
Let him know there are people rooting for him.
Joe
mark
9:53 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
I have read the entire artical and i didnt see where the police have found anyone at fault as of yet so why are all these people trying to blame the bus driver. they have no idea how long he has driven or how fast he was driving but some people cant wait to blame someone.
raymond Weis
11:59 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011
As a retired tractor trailer driver and an EMT who was on the scene of this accident I can tell you that the patient I took to the hospital told us she was in the front nrow of the bus when the accident occorred. She claimed that the truck lost control while trying to avoid a car that cut him off and that the bus driver did everything he could to avoid the truck but the trailer came over in front of them. I am assuming the car just kept blithely driving away.
As per the time delay for the ambulances getting on scene you must remember the first due ambulances were on scene very quickly. When they arrived they quickly determined that they needed many more ambulances, so they had to dispatch first aid squads from the surrounding area. Kendall Park responded two ambulances. For people familiar with the area for us to leave our quarters on New Rd in Kendall Park and get to entrance 8A and then go North to the U-turn at Ridge Rd and then go North up the South bound lane to the accident scene takes a bit of time. There was EMS from Monroe, Milltown, So Brunswick EMS and Kendall Park plus RWJ Paramedics at least two units and a helicopter from State Police Northstar and possibly more that I am not aware of. Gathering all these resourses takes a little time and when we respond we certainly do not want to cause other accidents compounding a bad situation and making it worse.
All in all I think everybody did their jobs well.
wrkn2mch
1:14 am on Sunday, August 28, 2011
Raymond.....Glad to see your comment as your first paragraph says it all. That woman was in the front row of the bus and stated that the trailer drifted over into the buses slow lane after being cut off by a car and by that last picture and looking at the skid marks going onto the grass she is correct......And i doubt very much the car stopped to take blame....probably late for a luncheon or something....
That bus driver is a hero and saved many lives.
Joe
Robert Curry
11:47 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011
The tractor-trailer may have jacnifed BEFORE the bus collided with it! Such a scenario blocks ALL lanes, putting the trailer in front of vehicles (the bus & possibly others) that previously had a clear lane/plenty of following distance, now they find no escape! The cause/fault in that case, would be whatever caused the tractor trailer to have to suddenly brake so hard!--(Sometimes, it is better to brake easier, and if you have to, go ahead and HIT the car, etc. that caused the incident.--Otherwise, as seems to be the case here, they leave the scene, possibly to REPEAT it somwhere else, at a later time!